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disclaimer: i have not seen the movie
Dec. 22nd, 2009 01:58 amSo in the Dean/Castiel fandom, one of the obstacles for the pairing is that Castiel is inhabiting Jimmy's body. Jimmy, who has a wife and daughter. Jimmy, who is at least vaguely aware of some of what goes on while Castiel is possessing him. This makes the prospect of Castiel and Dean having sex kind of... complicated.
Fandom has devised various solutions to this. The most popular is that Jimmy is gone from the body. This was usually done by Jimmy dying tragically. As of the end of S4, almost everyone has been operating on the assumption that Jimmy died when Castiel was killed by Raphael (not much grief over this since Jimmy was in only one episode and he's got a reserved seat in heaven). Another solution is Castiel leaving Jimmy's body, and then getting an identical one made just for him (like Anna). There's also getting Jimmy's permission to have sex, which never ceases to be awkward. I think doing it while keeping Jimmy unaware is fine, though I rarely see it happen. The way the possession deal seems to work is that a "yes" means that the angel gets to do whatever the hell they want with the body, and the host gets to go to heaven when they die (and Jimmy gets a bodyguard for his family). SO YEAH.
Anyway, the point of all this: it's always addressed in any kind of long D/C fic. I've never read one where they just went ahead while Jimmy watched and had no say in it, unless they were trying to be dark. It would seem like most people dislike the idea of someone having sex with someone else while in an aware, unconsenting body.
Apparently everyone who loved The Lovely Bones disagrees.
But let's get to that in a minute. Overall, I enjoyed the book. At first I found Susie's narration a bit too detatched, but I figure maybe she was narrating the whole thing from where she is at the end of the book, which makes sense. The best part of the book is definitely the characters. Nearly all of them are well-rounded and interesting.
The plot is where things kind of fall apart. For one, there really isn't one. The last threads fall away after everyone gives up on finding Susie's killer. From then on (and a little before that, too) it's just about watching different parts of the lives of Susie's friends and family unfold. Though like I said, I loved these characters, so I enjoyed this. Still: no plot.
I didn't much like the end of the book. I feel it would have been more appropriate if it justed continued with bittersweet snapshots of the living characters' lives, but apparently someone felt the need to completely tie up everything in a fluffy bow. Up to this point, the story had done decently at not becoming too sentimental. But at the end, everyone lives happily ever after. Except for the murderer, who dies via icicle as Susie watches. It felt very contrived.
And then the sex scene. Ruth is somewhat spiritual due to being touched by Susie on her way to heaven, and when she glimpses Susie's killer, she and Susie temporarily switch places. Susie uses this opportunity to sleep with her junior high crush who was her first and only kiss. They basically have a sex marathon all day IN HER SISTER'S BOYFRIEND'S BROTHER'S PLACE. Which they kind of broke into. Ew. And earlier in the book, Ruth was implied to be a lesbian. I just. There was nothing about that which could be called "okay."
Anyway, I thought it was interesting that an issue common to my part of fandom would pop up in something else. I mean, sex-while-possessed can't be that common, can it?
Fandom has devised various solutions to this. The most popular is that Jimmy is gone from the body. This was usually done by Jimmy dying tragically. As of the end of S4, almost everyone has been operating on the assumption that Jimmy died when Castiel was killed by Raphael (not much grief over this since Jimmy was in only one episode and he's got a reserved seat in heaven). Another solution is Castiel leaving Jimmy's body, and then getting an identical one made just for him (like Anna). There's also getting Jimmy's permission to have sex, which never ceases to be awkward. I think doing it while keeping Jimmy unaware is fine, though I rarely see it happen. The way the possession deal seems to work is that a "yes" means that the angel gets to do whatever the hell they want with the body, and the host gets to go to heaven when they die (and Jimmy gets a bodyguard for his family). SO YEAH.
Anyway, the point of all this: it's always addressed in any kind of long D/C fic. I've never read one where they just went ahead while Jimmy watched and had no say in it, unless they were trying to be dark. It would seem like most people dislike the idea of someone having sex with someone else while in an aware, unconsenting body.
Apparently everyone who loved The Lovely Bones disagrees.
But let's get to that in a minute. Overall, I enjoyed the book. At first I found Susie's narration a bit too detatched, but I figure maybe she was narrating the whole thing from where she is at the end of the book, which makes sense. The best part of the book is definitely the characters. Nearly all of them are well-rounded and interesting.
The plot is where things kind of fall apart. For one, there really isn't one. The last threads fall away after everyone gives up on finding Susie's killer. From then on (and a little before that, too) it's just about watching different parts of the lives of Susie's friends and family unfold. Though like I said, I loved these characters, so I enjoyed this. Still: no plot.
I didn't much like the end of the book. I feel it would have been more appropriate if it justed continued with bittersweet snapshots of the living characters' lives, but apparently someone felt the need to completely tie up everything in a fluffy bow. Up to this point, the story had done decently at not becoming too sentimental. But at the end, everyone lives happily ever after. Except for the murderer, who dies via icicle as Susie watches. It felt very contrived.
And then the sex scene. Ruth is somewhat spiritual due to being touched by Susie on her way to heaven, and when she glimpses Susie's killer, she and Susie temporarily switch places. Susie uses this opportunity to sleep with her junior high crush who was her first and only kiss. They basically have a sex marathon all day IN HER SISTER'S BOYFRIEND'S BROTHER'S PLACE. Which they kind of broke into. Ew. And earlier in the book, Ruth was implied to be a lesbian. I just. There was nothing about that which could be called "okay."
Anyway, I thought it was interesting that an issue common to my part of fandom would pop up in something else. I mean, sex-while-possessed can't be that common, can it?
